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--BOH: This leads me to the last question. One afternoon when we were both teaching at a conference, I said, “You’ve traveled around the world, you’ve written these books, and you’ve done all this work… why?” And you said, “I want to help create world peace.” And I said, “World peace, from waving your fingers in somebody’s eyes? How does that happen?” Can you talk about that?
--FS: If you’re trying to bring people together around a conference table when they’ve been exposed to the ethno-political damage from all these wars, they can’t connect because the unprocessed memories from those traumas keep getting triggered. The anger, the “You’re an Other” is there automatically. If we can process that, then they can make connections and reconciliations.
For instance, one of the trainings we did in Northern Ireland included Catholic and Protestant clinicians learning the procedures together. By the end of it, we managed to defuse an IRA death threat because the folks could see the connections being made. When you do EMDR therapy training, people are working on their own experiences, so they understand what’s happened. They can see what’s been driving some of their automatic responses. They develop more compassion for themselves and for others.
Although the results have been quite wonderful, there’s clearly a lot more that needs to be done. There are many more populations in need and a huge amount of negative psychological and physical effects that many clinicians misdiagnose.
--FS: If you’re trying to bring people together around a conference table when they’ve been exposed to the ethno-political damage from all these wars, they can’t connect because the unprocessed memories from those traumas keep getting triggered. The anger, the “You’re an Other” is there automatically. If we can process that, then they can make connections and reconciliations.
For instance, one of the trainings we did in Northern Ireland included Catholic and Protestant clinicians learning the procedures together. By the end of it, we managed to defuse an IRA death threat because the folks could see the connections being made. When you do EMDR therapy training, people are working on their own experiences, so they understand what’s happened. They can see what’s been driving some of their automatic responses. They develop more compassion for themselves and for others.
Although the results have been quite wonderful, there’s clearly a lot more that needs to be done. There are many more populations in need and a huge amount of negative psychological and physical effects that many clinicians misdiagnose.
--BOH: You started out with your own crisis of health and stress. Then you came up with EMDR, explored both the scientific and practical routes, and wanted to put it out in the world to help relieve suffering. Now we’ve got the organization built up so that it can respond to global situations. If we can make a big enough splash that we can create these ripples of connection and peace…
--FS: Yes. And part of the work is educating the public about what’s running them. My most recent book, Getting Past Your Past, is for laypeople to understand from the EMDR therapy perspective how so much of the pain and guilt and shame that they’re feeling is the result of unprocessed memories.
It’s a physical problem. It’s not like, “You should have snapped out of it,” or “Why can’t you adjust?” Everyone has an information processing system that’s supposed to take things to resolution, but if it gets overwhelmed because of a high level of disturbance, the memory of the event gets locked in the brain.
Those negative emotions and sensations and beliefs that occurred
when they were children, are still locked in because the memory simply can’t link up with anything more adaptive.
There is no shame in going to aphysician if you break your leg. Like wise, there should be no stigma in going to get therapy in order to make sure that you can achieve full mental health.
--FS: Yes. And part of the work is educating the public about what’s running them. My most recent book, Getting Past Your Past, is for laypeople to understand from the EMDR therapy perspective how so much of the pain and guilt and shame that they’re feeling is the result of unprocessed memories.
It’s a physical problem. It’s not like, “You should have snapped out of it,” or “Why can’t you adjust?” Everyone has an information processing system that’s supposed to take things to resolution, but if it gets overwhelmed because of a high level of disturbance, the memory of the event gets locked in the brain.
Those negative emotions and sensations and beliefs that occurred
when they were children, are still locked in because the memory simply can’t link up with anything more adaptive.
There is no shame in going to aphysician if you break your leg. Like wise, there should be no stigma in going to get therapy in order to make sure that you can achieve full mental health.
The book describes a variety of different problems, so that people can understand the dynamics and kinds of experiences that cause them. I lead readers through the EMDR therapy self-help techniques that people can use on their own, as well as certain processing that can be safely done at home.
Lots of people don’t have thereapists available or don’t believe in thereapy, but this allows them to have their own positive experiences and insights so that they can understand with more compassion for themselves and others.
The royalties for the book are going to the HAP and to the EMDR Research Foundation. It feels good that readers are both helping themselves and people all over the world.
Bill O’Hanlon, MS, has written more than 30 books, appeared on Oprah with his book Do One Thing Different, and has been a top-rated
presenter at psychotherapy conferences all over the world. He was a student of the late Milton H. Erickson, MD, and created Solution-Oriented
Therapy and Possibility Therapy. Find
him at http://billohanlon.com/.
Lots of people don’t have thereapists available or don’t believe in thereapy, but this allows them to have their own positive experiences and insights so that they can understand with more compassion for themselves and others.
The royalties for the book are going to the HAP and to the EMDR Research Foundation. It feels good that readers are both helping themselves and people all over the world.
Bill O’Hanlon, MS, has written more than 30 books, appeared on Oprah with his book Do One Thing Different, and has been a top-rated
presenter at psychotherapy conferences all over the world. He was a student of the late Milton H. Erickson, MD, and created Solution-Oriented
Therapy and Possibility Therapy. Find
him at http://billohanlon.com/.