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экологическая проверка (ru_nlp)
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Различение образов слов_со смыслом и лиц
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Re: Обратное направление EMDR-движений для спецконтексто
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В начале перестройки в Новосиб заезжала педагогиня из рановского инт-та писхологии. Преподавала на длинных семинарах некую новую методику обучения в школе.
Меня на день привёз тогдашний мой директор школы посмотреть и оценить.
Все изложение этой революционной практической системы обучения сопровождалось развёрнутой системой метафор работы пищеварения. От выбора что засунуть в рот, до пережовывания, проглатывания, переваривания и т.д.
После первого дня занятий сидели в узком кругу в ресторане. Директор меня подзудил и я задал вопрос: есть ли в её преподавании этой ново системы какие-то странные/ необычные проблемы?
Она ответила/ она подпрыгнула - есть! В первые дни семинаристы жалуются на проблемы с пищеварением.
Я ей объяснил в чём дело. Что было с ней далее я не знаю.
Скорее всего, эффективность её системы полностью коренилась на метафорическом вовлечении в процесс обучения работы интеральной нервной системы.
Меня на день привёз тогдашний мой директор школы посмотреть и оценить.
Все изложение этой революционной практической системы обучения сопровождалось развёрнутой системой метафор работы пищеварения. От выбора что засунуть в рот, до пережовывания, проглатывания, переваривания и т.д.
После первого дня занятий сидели в узком кругу в ресторане. Директор меня подзудил и я задал вопрос: есть ли в её преподавании этой ново системы какие-то странные/ необычные проблемы?
Она ответила/ она подпрыгнула - есть! В первые дни семинаристы жалуются на проблемы с пищеварением.
Я ей объяснил в чём дело. Что было с ней далее я не знаю.
Скорее всего, эффективность её системы полностью коренилась на метафорическом вовлечении в процесс обучения работы интеральной нервной системы.
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Re: Изменение режима питания с калибровочным чувством
metanymous в посте Metapractice (оригинал в ЖЖ)
вполне определённым - это у каждого своё?
У всех одинаковое. В этом и прикол.
и всё-таки "пиСания" или "пиТания"?
ПиТания, конечно. ПисАния это мегаманьячная описка типа «писания святого метанимуса».
а как же остальной режим дня?
«День» берётся с момента пробуждения и до момента отхода ко сну.
У всех одинаковое. В этом и прикол.
и всё-таки "пиСания" или "пиТания"?
ПиТания, конечно. ПисАния это мегаманьячная описка типа «писания святого метанимуса».
а как же остальной режим дня?
«День» берётся с момента пробуждения и до момента отхода ко сну.
сколько слов у эскимосов для снега
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9. Gestalt: The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
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9. Gestalt: The whole is greater than the sum of its parts.
This is one that can have such misleading connotations as ‘big is better’. In my work with gangs, dysfunctional teams and organisations it is clear that the opposite is the case - the whole is less than the sum of the parts. I’m a little embarrassed to think how many years it took me to work this out (however I am somewhat consoled by the fact that no one else I have met has realised it until I tell them!). The accurate conclusion is that the whole is different from the sum of its parts.
I hope that this is enough to stimulate for now. The others will be clarified in future articles.
In this article I have outlined some of the beginnings of ‘re-modelling’ NLP to make it more effective, efficient and elegant. In future articles I will go into more depth on each of the main elements of practitioner and master practitioner level NLP. I hope that this will encourage an open and developmental approach to NLP through constructive criticism. Only if this happens can NLP continue as a field of study rather than becoming a dead technology. By demonstrating openness to learning and development in our own thinking and behaviour we offer our clients a deeper pattern of successful behaviour, one that will benefit them beyond the range of any particular technique.
Since the introduction of sub-modalities in the early 80’s there has been little in the way of major developments of the NLP model. There have been many developments beyond NLP; chaos theory, fractal structures, fuzzy logic to name a few. As Bateson said in the introduction to Magic I “But, indeed, much that was so difficult to say in 1955 is strikingly easier to say in 1975" p xi. We have moved on a lot since 1975.
Part two of this series will be “Re-Modelling the Meta and Milton models” and include a simple model of conversational belief change that is also a basis for constructive questioning of NLP.
This is one that can have such misleading connotations as ‘big is better’. In my work with gangs, dysfunctional teams and organisations it is clear that the opposite is the case - the whole is less than the sum of the parts. I’m a little embarrassed to think how many years it took me to work this out (however I am somewhat consoled by the fact that no one else I have met has realised it until I tell them!). The accurate conclusion is that the whole is different from the sum of its parts.
I hope that this is enough to stimulate for now. The others will be clarified in future articles.
In this article I have outlined some of the beginnings of ‘re-modelling’ NLP to make it more effective, efficient and elegant. In future articles I will go into more depth on each of the main elements of practitioner and master practitioner level NLP. I hope that this will encourage an open and developmental approach to NLP through constructive criticism. Only if this happens can NLP continue as a field of study rather than becoming a dead technology. By demonstrating openness to learning and development in our own thinking and behaviour we offer our clients a deeper pattern of successful behaviour, one that will benefit them beyond the range of any particular technique.
Since the introduction of sub-modalities in the early 80’s there has been little in the way of major developments of the NLP model. There have been many developments beyond NLP; chaos theory, fractal structures, fuzzy logic to name a few. As Bateson said in the introduction to Magic I “But, indeed, much that was so difficult to say in 1955 is strikingly easier to say in 1975" p xi. We have moved on a lot since 1975.
Part two of this series will be “Re-Modelling the Meta and Milton models” and include a simple model of conversational belief change that is also a basis for constructive questioning of NLP.
18 Perceptual Filters
It is often stated in NLP that we have Perceptual Filters. These are responsible for filtering the incoming information about the world. As a metaphoric description this is an interesting one, as a process description it is the exact opposite of what happens. Our nervous system works on thresholds and news of a difference. We learn to become sensitive to particular stimuli and so actively select what we let through – the exact opposite of a filter whose active response is to hold things back. What could hold a perception back and what happens to all the rubbish in the filter?
It is often stated in NLP that we have Perceptual Filters. These are responsible for filtering the incoming information about the world. As a metaphoric description this is an interesting one, as a process description it is the exact opposite of what happens. Our nervous system works on thresholds and news of a difference. We learn to become sensitive to particular stimuli and so actively select what we let through – the exact opposite of a filter whose active response is to hold things back. What could hold a perception back and what happens to all the rubbish in the filter?
10. Ecology Check
The question at the end of techniques is not a test of ecology but of the client's congruence with the changes. It is a test of “affect”. On its own it could never be a test of “effect”, what the results would be on the client as a whole system. It is a useful thing to do but deceptively mis-leading to give it a grander title than is accurate.
The question at the end of techniques is not a test of ecology but of the client's congruence with the changes. It is a test of “affect”. On its own it could never be a test of “effect”, what the results would be on the client as a whole system. It is a useful thing to do but deceptively mis-leading to give it a grander title than is accurate.
2. Eskimos have seventy words for snow.
On page 15 of Frogs, Bandler and Grinder state that “Eskimos have some seventy words for snow”. Pullum explores this myth in his book ”The great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax”. He cites the work of anthropologist Laura Martin of Cleveland State University who spent some of her research time during the 1980s attempting to slay the constantly changing, self-regenerating myth of Eskimo snow terminology. She traced the myth to the original source of Franz Boas' introduction the Handbook of North American Indians (1911).
“And all Boas says there, in the context of a low-key and slightly ill-explained discussion of independent versus derived terms for things in different languages, is that just as English uses separate roots for a variety of forms of water (liquid, lake, river, brook, rain, dew, wave, foam) that might be formed by derivational morphology from a single root meaning 'water' in some other language, so Eskimo uses the apparently distinct roots aput 'snow on the ground', gana 'falling snow', piqsirpoq 'drifting snow', and qimuqsuq 'a snow drift'. Boas' point is simply that English expressed these notions by phrases involving the root snow, but things could have been otherwise, just as the words for lake, river, etc. could have been formed derivationally or periphrastically on the root water”. P161
“Don't be a coward like me. Stand up and tell the speaker this: C W Schultz-Lorentzen's Dictionary of the West Greenlandic Eskimo Language (1927) gives just two possibly relevant roots: qanik, meaning 'snow in the air' or 'snowflake', and aput, meaning 'snow on the ground'. Then add that you would be interested to know if the speaker can cite any more”. P167
As a modeller I too am interested in what people do especially when perpetuating inaccurate models. My concern for a modelling field is the lack investigation and accurate modelling. It is one level of error to believe the Emperor is wearing fine clothes if you haven’t seen the Emperor, it is another when you have.
On page 15 of Frogs, Bandler and Grinder state that “Eskimos have some seventy words for snow”. Pullum explores this myth in his book ”The great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax”. He cites the work of anthropologist Laura Martin of Cleveland State University who spent some of her research time during the 1980s attempting to slay the constantly changing, self-regenerating myth of Eskimo snow terminology. She traced the myth to the original source of Franz Boas' introduction the Handbook of North American Indians (1911).
“And all Boas says there, in the context of a low-key and slightly ill-explained discussion of independent versus derived terms for things in different languages, is that just as English uses separate roots for a variety of forms of water (liquid, lake, river, brook, rain, dew, wave, foam) that might be formed by derivational morphology from a single root meaning 'water' in some other language, so Eskimo uses the apparently distinct roots aput 'snow on the ground', gana 'falling snow', piqsirpoq 'drifting snow', and qimuqsuq 'a snow drift'. Boas' point is simply that English expressed these notions by phrases involving the root snow, but things could have been otherwise, just as the words for lake, river, etc. could have been formed derivationally or periphrastically on the root water”. P161
“Don't be a coward like me. Stand up and tell the speaker this: C W Schultz-Lorentzen's Dictionary of the West Greenlandic Eskimo Language (1927) gives just two possibly relevant roots: qanik, meaning 'snow in the air' or 'snowflake', and aput, meaning 'snow on the ground'. Then add that you would be interested to know if the speaker can cite any more”. P167
As a modeller I too am interested in what people do especially when perpetuating inaccurate models. My concern for a modelling field is the lack investigation and accurate modelling. It is one level of error to believe the Emperor is wearing fine clothes if you haven’t seen the Emperor, it is another when you have.
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