--BOH: So you made a commitment to make sure the people who do this research are well trained and that the research is solid.--FS: Yes. Controversy about the eye movement being bogus is based on those early negative studies, but since then…--BOH: More studies have comein, and they’re legitimate, valid, well-designed studies with people who knew how to do the procedure.--FS: And a new meta-analysis just came out that evaluated the various studies and demonstrated definitively that the eye movements do add to it. One of the research supported hypotheses revealed that it indeed seems to link into the same processes that occur during rapid eye movement sleep. Another 12 studies have been done supporting another hypothesis - that it taxes working memory. I believe both of them are true. They just come in at different times during the therapy.--BOH: So the procedure’s been validated, there are more studies going on, and hypotheses are still being investigated. Let’s address dismissals of the work. “It’s just hypnosis.” What do you say to that?--FS: Well, it’s simply not. It’s a different brain state. There was a study that compared brain states between EMDR therapy and hypnosis.