Re: Кто управляет автобусом ↑

Да, кстати. Он же еще в молодости к Спитцеру - издателю - устроился учить его сына стучать на ударной установке.

Ага. А еще раньше был в группе барабанщиком.

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И со слов Макклендона, уже после встречи с Эриксоном, но еще до СМ1, Ричард с Джоном джэмили/играли вместе:

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I went to visit them at Acorn Hollow with a question involving my ability

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to see clearly once again without the need of corrective lenses and I also

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wanted to understand more about therapeutic metaphor. At this time

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John was visiting Richard and they were having a guitar session

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together.

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Richard plays the drums, jazz guitar and piano and has a satisfactory jazz

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voice. John was relatively new in the music scene. His appreciation of

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music was very high, though his skill level on instruments had not been

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fully realized at this time. With his brilliant modelling skills he was able to

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learn to play the bass guitar from Richard very quickly.

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<...>

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I temporarily interrupted their practice session. John taught me how to

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use hypnosis to solve my problem about seeing and at the same time

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and in the same trance, I learned how to construct a therapeutic

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metaphor.

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During the period of time that I was practicing my hypnosis techniques

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in trance, John and Richard continued to play their raucous music,

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jamming away oblivious to what I was doing. I guess they weren't going

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to let me spoil their fun. It was these kinds of experiences that made the

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novice appreciate the subtlety and skill level that they achieved when they

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were able to carry on multiple tasks at one time.

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Terrence L. McClendon. NLP: The Wild Days 1972-1981. pp. 65-66

Да уж - чем только Джон Г. ни занимался, на какие горы ни лазил, на каких самолетах ни летал, с какими только музыкантами ни музицировал - от музыкантов гамелана на Бали, до проффи африканской музыки и танца в собственных тренинговых программах.

Но?

Не "но", а "и"... Джон всегда был склонен так присоединяться к другим людям - имитировать их деятельность. Поэтому, почему бы ему и не помузицировать с Ричардом?

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А с другой стороны - м.б. это Ричард ему пытался показать истоки своего моделирования.